Putting news to air. How?

EN5Radio

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Back in the old days on hospital radio they used a service called IRN (Independent Radio News) wo put the news live on air. It was pretty much unbranded (apart from "Independent Radio News" outro cue).

As far as im aware IRN have long gone, so my question is does anyone know any UK news service which we could use on our station for outputting live news on the hour? Basically relaying news.

It has to be relatively unbranded and must output on time every time. (not bbc or capital etc)

Cheers

Carl.
 
Theirs a few sources you can still syndicate royalty free like ESL (english second language) news. Theirs still a few sources you can use. Most that are worth your time will require a charge or for you to stream a commercial, which in this case (being your from the UK) you want to make sure the PPL has no issues with this due to the type of licenses you carry. I deal with JLA licensing (ASCAP, BMI, Sound Exchange) but due to no SESAC, I pass on this option.
 

EN5Radio

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Theirs a few sources you can still syndicate royalty free like ESL (english second language) news. Theirs still a few sources you can use. Most that are worth your time will require a charge or for you to stream a commercial, which in this case (being your from the UK) you want to make sure the PPL has no issues with this due to the type of licenses you carry. I deal with JLA licensing (ASCAP, BMI, Sound Exchange) but due to no SESAC, I pass on this option.


The licence is something we're looking into as we speak. Do you know of any UK news streams we could use (even with a commercial) so we can get a feel of them before we approach them?

Thanks
Carl.
 

General Lighting

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IRN is still going, not sure how much the license is.

I think its just that near everyone here has quit listening to "this is clone FM" type stations.

I don't think it was that much but when I last did a legal station for the first RSL they did they could not afford clean feed and took it from one of the Asian stations. If you did not close this feed you'd end up relaying bhangra over your local content and worse breaching the RSL for relaying a different station without authorisation. To this day hearing "Independent Radio News" makes me immediately go on alert.....
 

EN5Radio

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IRN is still going, not sure how much the license is.

I think its just that near everyone here has quit listening to "this is clone FM" type stations.

I don't think it was that much but when I last did a legal station for the first RSL they did they could not afford clean feed and took it from one of the Asian stations. If you did not close this feed you'd end up relaying bhangra over your local content and worse breaching the RSL for relaying a different station without authorisation. To this day hearing "Independent Radio News" makes me immediately go on alert.....


LOL, I know exactly what you mean, but we would like a way to put out news to break up the shows etc. So apart from IRN or doing it ourselves (which we really dont want to do) do you recommend any other feeds?

Carl.
 

dj4listeners

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in case would use mine own voice for spreading news daily or not... is it required to make the source public where the news original come from?
 

General Lighting

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in case would use mine own voice for spreading news daily or not... is it required to make the source public where the news original come from?

I think if you are using an entire newspaper article then you would publicise the newspaper (if it was a news programme where you were reviewing other papers for their political stance for instance comparing de Volkskrant with de Telegraaf but it would of course make sense to do that anyway)

for shorter articles it would depend on what licensing is permitted, but I think (I am not a legal expert though!) that you can take any news article and edit it yourself into a short radio piece and that is OK.

I read 112nederland.nl nearly every day to help me practice my Dutch (coincidentally it is because of my interest in radio I decided to learn Dutch as your country has many good ideas for both technical info and programming)

as an example (OK, 50km too far away)

Poes Kitty van 10 meter hoogte gered - 112 Nederland

now this would be too long anyway (whichever language you used) so it could be edited down into the main parts, the cat got stuck in the tree and a volunteer fire brigade came and rescued it, and the family gave them tea and cakes (which is unusual in the UK, not because we do not want to do this but there are way too many fires and accidents so the Fire Brigade do not have time to socialise like this!)

by which time it could not be a direct copy of the 112nederland text. but I get the impression from NL in particular that any news on the 112 services is provided for all and as long as reported accurately is can be reported (which is fair enough as nomally it shows they are brave and help people).

A tip: I think the dierenambulance could be a great source of news items especially if you are transmitting to English as well as Dutch speaking listeners. I myself am fascinated by the concept of you folk having special ambulances for cats, dogs and farm animals as well as people, and would like to know more about it myself. maybe if you contact them they will allow you to record special items with their permission as it is good publicity!

Alex
 
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General Lighting

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LOL, I know exactly what you mean, but we would like a way to put out news to break up the shows etc. So apart from IRN or doing it ourselves (which we really dont want to do) do you recommend any other feeds?

Carl.

I'd try to get stuff from your community radio station if one exists (though many still use IRN!). or try the media studies faculties of local college/uni?
 
OK, the WHOLE PROCESS!

First, you got to notify the news station you want to syndicate (because their content is copyright by internet publishing, unless the content creator creative commons, and then you still have to notify of the use of his/her works and paste the CC license. ) if there is no notice for affiliate syndication?:

Contact them directly and ask. They may say buzz off. They may say your a go. They may say you have to include an ad from their repository for plY:

AND OF COURSE, they may delete your e-mail and treat it as spam.

I cant agree more with the local news route.

The second route? Hire a local blogger in the area on the cheap. Lots of people blog. They would love to hear themselves talk. I video blog. I'm a vain person. Its a flaw I accept.
 

dj4listeners

New Member
I think if you are using an entire newspaper article then you would publish the newspaper.

I read 112nederland.nl nearly every day to help me practice my Dutch (coincidentally it is because of my interest in radio I decided to learn Dutch as your country has many good ideas for both technical info and programming)

Alex

thx for background info. visit website vfr media as well and it is great. wasnt able to find contact url for approaching you at the website. In case of tech and programming and show innovations. you can contact me at deejay_for_listeners @yahoo.com
 

simck123

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For anyone wanting to use IRN (Independent Radio News) or Sky News Radio (the current provider of the live news bulletins) it will cost internet stations £2000 p.a. If you're a community radio, RSL, hospital radio or other charity it will cost £300 + vat.
You can try FSN (www.featurestory.com) they provide world news bulletins updated twice daily with a weekly round-up at the weekend for £15 per month. The UK desperately needs a radio news provider for smaller scale stations. If anyone wants to launch such a service I know there is a huge demand for it.
 

Niel Soley

New Member
HELP !! please

Andy thank you for taking the time to do this,bt we cannot get it to download,can you offer any help.

Thank you
I've just produced a freeware downloader of the hourly sky news bulletin if that's any help? LINK: NewsDownloader-Install.exe - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download - Andy McL

Basically it downloads the latest 2-minute bulletin straight from the server, although Sky usually take about 20-30 minutes to upload the latest version, so on the hour is usually from the hour before if that makes sense.

If you have a link for another service, though, I can rewrite the coding if you like?

Let me know of what you think - anyone's opinion at all is much appreciated.
 

irownnoke

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Putting news to air How

It is to My understanding that some users set up a news feed that tells them every new post made in all of zoklet in real time.I guess im a noob and i dont know how to do it.Please Help. Thank You. Goodbye.
 
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